Squilo
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Post by Squilo on Aug 24, 2003 22:54:34 GMT 1
i personally hate rand. i cant stand him at all. when i was reading in class i was getting odd looks because i was unconsiouly shredding paper cause i was so mad at him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by HammerOfGod on Aug 25, 2003 12:54:50 GMT 1
Hatred is a strong word...
Some of the characters seem to do things that upset me, but that is what makes this the greatest series ever written...
I don't want to read about charactors that are so bland that I don't care what they do....
Nynaeve has treated Mat badly, she kicked him in {LoC} but when the Seanchan came to Ebou Dar she was ready to go back and get Mat even though she was so tired she was not able to stand up...
This is what I like about WoT: all the characters are so human...
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Post by Shandy on Aug 25, 2003 18:31:26 GMT 1
Hatred is a strong word, but I have to say, I HATE Egwene. She's so fickle. Ever since the first book, when she dismissed Rand for Aram pretty quickly, changed loyalties from Nynaeve to Moiraine and back again, claimed she loved Rand although she was willing to go to another village and leave him. Someone else wrote this on a WOT board: Egwene's changeable affections... love Rand, feel sorry for Rand, make Rand pay for stuff she has no proof he did ['cause he didn't]; mad at Gawyn, worried about Gawyn, manipulating Gawyn, horny over Gawyn; friendly to Min, jealous at Min, forgetting who Min's boyfriend is; worship Nynaeve, glad to see Nynaeve rescue her; grouchy at Nynaeve, bullying Nynaeve to hide her own guilt, reveling in power over Nynaeve, taking advantage of Nynaeve's attempts to be respectful; homesick for the Two Rivers, glad to lose the braid, can't stand to look at the Two Rivers, mad that people who have never been to the Two Rivers don't follow her customs; upset that friends see her as Amyrlin, using Amyrlin's authority when she's annoyed at them, annoyed at Two Rivers girls for being too familiar with the Amyrlin; lonely that no one can be friends with the Amyrlin.I think they get my point across too. Also, I guess I resented the fact that she was so beautiful and perfect that everybody fell in love with her at first sight (eg. Aram, Galad, Gawyn) because a real girl just can't relate to that. Also because I have so much loyalty to Nyn, I despise Egwene for trapping her in a nightmare in T'A'R. I mean, Nyn can be a pain at times, but she would never do anything that nasty to her friends. I don't have much shame in saying that I hope Egwene gets beheaded relentlessly by her own lover That said, I respect that other people like the character a lot and I can sorta see some qualities they might like in her. Sorta LOL @ you getting looks for shredding paper, Squilo! HammerofGod, I liked that about Nynaeve too. Some of her actions can be unbearable at times, but underneath she is shown to have a really big heart, because she still really cares for all the Two Rivers boys and thinks about them a lot, even if they barely ever spare her a thought!
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Post by Isabel on Aug 25, 2003 18:56:17 GMT 1
Of this list I hate Cadsuane most, but I also dislike Berelain. She a very *friendly* person and should leave perrin alone. He is married and has totally no interest in her. She only does it to hurt faile.
bye isabel
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Squilo
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Post by Squilo on Aug 25, 2003 22:40:12 GMT 1
i agree with u hammerofgod, having charcters that are human makes these books great, but still i cant stand rand. i dont know why but mostly i think its because of the following reasons
1. he doesnt let anyone help him if he had let people help him he wouldnt get into alot of the mess hes in 2. part of dumai's wells SPOILER FOR BOOK 6
he makes the AS that tried to save him swear fealty, even though if the asha'man hadnt come first they would have saved his life and they came risking ther lives for him and he repays them by making them kneel. 3. his problem about killing women, from being female and playing basketball, its INCREADIBLY annoying when the boys wont guard you or beat you up as much as the rest of the players. if rand hadnt been so scared moiraine (who i liked) wouldnt have died
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Post by Creator on Dec 29, 2003 5:02:03 GMT 1
I hate Rand, Egwene, Gawyn, all the Seanchan, Elaida, Rand, Rand, Rand again(who does he think he is? Ordering Aes Sedai about. I hope he gets killed in the Last Battle)and I'm sure I could think of more, but I'll tell you why I dislike these characters. I've already explained Rand, so I'll move to Egwene. Basically I've hated her ever since she did that thing to Nynave in Dream Land(I don't want to even attempt to spell it), where she made the guys try to rape and/or kill her. Gawyn because he lead the Younglings, thus he was kind of responisble for Siuan not being rescued by the blue and green warders, and he likes Egwene, the Seanchan because they chain women who can channel, and Elaida because of what she did to Siuan. There, I'm sure there are more, but that'll do for now.
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Post by Squilo on Dec 29, 2003 19:41:36 GMT 1
i perfectly agree with everything you said. but now to add, i HATE this sea folk, they are arrogant beyond belief, and annoying and snot nosed. the only cool one is talaan, who wants to become Aes Sedai.
of all the TAS, right now i have to say i like seaine, she is pretty funny to read about in aCoS, and pevara is very cool, just how she wants to get back at all darkfriends b/c they killed her family. seaine was the only one who didnt stand for elaida becoming amyrlin who didnt flee the tower, she wants the tower whole regardless of the amyrlin, i respect that. pevara chose the red because hunting men who can channel was as close as she could get to hunting the darkfriends taht killed her family. many believe she would have done better in green.
elaida is just plain stupid. heres my impresion
elaida about fain: "hmm he's probably the most dangerous darkfriend of all time, hes tainted by shadar logoth, and is partly mordeth. i must now make him my most trusted adviser.
Elaida about alviarin: "shes head of the BA, not of my former ajah, so i must raise her to keeper."
elaida about rand as much as i hate to say it: "he's the future savior of mankind, and if he dies the world is doomed. lets put him in a box!"
rand is an idiot. moiraine tells him not to trust any full AS, so he goes off and lets in all of the TAS. moiriane didnt know about the split yet but IMO she would have liked rand to trust the SAS. so rand quickly makes all the AS that could ever help him kneel just to show his power. i hope cadsuane makes him laugh and cry SOON or i might explode. and how he wont kill women, just really really really annoys me.
I believe that siuan should have been the amyrlin after she was healed, she was probably one of the greatest amyrlins of all time if elaida and the TAS werent so dimwitted. and she is extremely intellegent. siuan was in the process of telling all the rulers about the tDR and doing EXACTLY the right thing when the stupid dimwitted elaida decides to still her.
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Post by Evelyn on Feb 10, 2004 6:03:37 GMT 1
I have to admit, I had high hopes for Egwene when I began the books...
Then something changed... just when she was becomming something interesting... she became amyrillin... and... hey presto, she had no personality to speak of...
So yeah... Egwene. I can't really say that I hate her... but she is who I dislike the most right now...
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Post by PeachAjah on May 24, 2004 0:37:40 GMT 1
I don't really hate anyone, though I hate Egwene's name. It always makes me thinks of yellow eggs.
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Squilo
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Post by Squilo on May 24, 2004 22:04:39 GMT 1
lol about eggs, i call her egghead because of it
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Post by caroline on May 25, 2004 15:33:13 GMT 1
Among those I really don't care for.... I used to like Perrin until he lost his backbone which means I can't stand Faile--I liked her at first, but now she's just annoying. I also can't stand Berlain. Rand has his moments. I still think he's a pig for sleeping with all three of those women and those women get on my nerves because they allowed it. There was no relationship development with Rand & his women. Jordan would just say they all fell in love at first sight. Uh, ok, whatever you say RJ. Aviendha bugs me. She seems so cold and mean. I also hate Cadsuane but everybody hates her. I'm actually neutral on Egwene & Gawyn, but she does have a dumb name & he's a bit clueless. The Sea Folk and Seanchan suck as well. But I LOVE Nyn, Mat, Birgitte, Siuan, Moiraine, Leane, Gareth, Lan, Olver among others.
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Post by Shikoba on Sept 24, 2004 17:33:25 GMT 1
Where is Elayne on the pole? Elayne is evil, as I keep mentioning. Rand is annoying, but I don't hate him unless he's flirting with Elayne. There are actually a lot of characters who get on my nerves in various parts of the books, but I agree that that is what makes WoT so good [believable characters] --but I would like it very much if Elayne fell of a cliff.
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Post by Shikoba on Sept 24, 2004 17:34:26 GMT 1
I love the Sea Folk. Don't diss the Sea Folk. I'm one of the Sea Folk.
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Post by PeachAjah on Sept 25, 2004 23:09:20 GMT 1
I. Hate. Berelain!! She is such a wool-head!
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Post by Shikoba on Sept 26, 2004 3:57:47 GMT 1
I like Berelain. She's pretty warped, but she's a strong person. And I think she actually does like Perrin, though they will NEVER end up together.
I think the Younglings are really cool, though I'm neautral about Gawyn. I think his brother is awesome.
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