*spoilers* More Strenght!

[sedk]

I been wondering about strenght in the one power to the forsakens, and hear's what I figured.

Ishamael: Believed by many to be the most powerful Forsaken
Lanfear: She was the most powerful of the female Forsaken, and was maybe the second-strongest of all
Aginor: He was the second most powerful of the Male Forsaken.

But it is hear it goes wrong. Sammael and Demandred is in equal strenght as Rand, Rand is the strongest, but not by much. Taim can hold almost as much as Rand, he is equal strenghted as Sammael and Demandred. I am not sure of Logain strenght, but I think he can match Taim. Nynaeve held Logain from the one power after she heald him. Sharina has even more potential than Nynaeve. Nynaeve shield Moghedien with her block.

Well.. What I wonder is what have I missed or done wrong. Anyway, If what I have written is right then Nynaeve is as strong as Rand.

[Liandra]

I'm not sure about the "equal in strength"-thingie, but I know this: you don't need to be stronger or equal in strength to shield someone. If you're able to weave a shield, then you can keep it there even if the person you're shielding is twice your strength. I believe that if the other is indeed much stronger, it is possible that he or she can break loose, but nearly always you should be able to keep the weave. So, it depends on who shields who first.
In the case of Nynaeve and Logain, Nynaeve was already channeling, so she was naturally the first who was able to shield the other. And I don't think Logain was fighting her too hard. I mean, what should he have done, being where he was, in a camp full of Aes Sedai?

[Squilo]

SPOILERS! WARNING SPOILERS!

even if logain wasnt using his full strength nynaeve who was just doing complicated healing would be tired from healing him, also she still had her block which means shes not as strong as she will be logain has been chananling for quite a while so he most likely is as his full potential, nyn howeever without being nowhere near her full potential, blocked, and tired could still sheild him and stuff a gag of air in his mouth at the same time. but by book 9 the strengths go crazy. with nynaeve and rand cleansing saidin they probably both after channeling so much that it can be felt all over the world, they both probably got ther full potential. now men's power go up in jumps and leaps as for womens go up steadily. but even a womans strength would rise drastically after using that much saidar. now post WH nynaeve should easily be able to sheild talaan. because pre-choden kal nyn and talaan were equal. now a good match would be pre-choden kal nyn verusus semirhage. but since nyn got so much stronger a good match would be probably, her vurses alivia or her vurses lanfear before she died. her vurses sharina would be completely useless because nynaeve has had way more experiance and sharina has just come to the rebel AS however strong she is sharina even though she bosses novices around has not had as much experiance channeling as nynaeve considering nynaeve has been off killing black ajah and so on and so forth.

[Isabel]

Rand is the strongest of them all, only he doesn't have his full potential. Taim has probably got his full potential, because he channeled for about 15 years.

And about Nynaeve, when Logain was stretching his muscles she could barely hold him and he wasn't even trying to break the shield.

I would say Sharina and Alivia are equal. And sharina would probably be nynaeve strenght right now.

bye isabel

[Squilo]

i doubt sharina would be as strong as alivia. #1 she just started channeling, she might be old enough to be a gramma but she just started channeling so she has no where near reached her full potential. i very much doubt that a novice however strong her potential is equal to alivia who cyndane says was stronger than herself (lanfear) went threw the t'a. also alivia has had 400 years of damane training. as we know going threw damane training makes you reach your full potential ie egwene pre damane could handle maybe one fireball after damane training she made streets blow-up. so as we can see after 400 years of that alivia would be waaaay stronger than sharina. id think nyn is stronger than sharina because shar has just started channeling and nyn has just cleansed saidin. i think, that alivia sharina and nyn are all by the time they all get ther full potential will be equal in strength because otherwise wed have just 3 super-sedai's and they could easliy if they teamed up beat up the forsaken easily and the story would suck.

[sedk]

Nynaeve shields Logain but he is so strong he can nearly break it

[sedk]

In chapter 31 in the Great Hunt:
Verin says only Siu, Moiraine, Elaida and the three girls could handle the female giant statue. Login would be fried if he tried to use the male giant statue.

What a wierd pice of information coming from the not lying Verin. How in the world would she know that

[Isabel]

About the girls, well she can estimate everyones strenght and can guess how strong someone has to be to use those statues.

And about logain. i think that was also a guess.

bye isabel

[HammerOfGod]

Lanfear herself said that LTT was the strongest and that Rand is LTT reborn.... THE STRONGEST CHANNELLER IN WOT IS RAND WITH {MORIDIN} SECOND!!!!!!!

[Frenzy]

strength is one thing, but another factor is skill. You can be as strong as an ox, but if you lack the skills to do even the simplest of weaves, all you are is as strong as an ox.

Lanfear is so deadly because she has both great strength AND skill in the Power. It's the skills that make the Chosen so deadly.

fortunately, the good guys have dumb luck on their side.

[Liandra]

Frenzy said:

fortunately, the good guys have dumb luck on their side.

You aren't talking about Mat in such a way, are you?

[sedk]

First of all how could Lanfear know rands strenght so well, all she could do was guess it.
Second, in the tDR Ishamael aka Moridin call for the true power in a way that he match rand holding Callindor (or something).
So Moridin would be much stronger than rand.

[Liandra]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the True Power something other than saidin? Isn't it the Dark One-power?

I'm not sure... I'm always confusing those two... Though in the Dutch version, I know which is which. It's just my English, I'm afraid.

[Caleb]

Liandra said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the True Power something other than saidin? Isn't it the Dark One-power?

I'm not sure... I'm always confusing those two... Though in the Dutch version, I know which is which. It's just my English, I'm afraid.

You have the One Power which comes from the True Source. Haven't you just mixed up the words? Or are there are another yet another power that the One?

Male half: Saidin
Female half: Saidar

[Liandra]

It's the words. In the Dutch version, I know which power is which, but in the English version I keep mixing them up. Ah, well, I always buy the Dutch version after the English version, so if I didn't get it the first time, I'll get it the second time.