Nynaeve and Lan: next target for slayer?

[Squilo]

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In WH slayer says something around the lines of "...a pity, he really was going to enjoy killing his nephew and the wench" lan is isams nephew and the wench has to be nynaeve, therefore slayer is gonna try to kill them. i would like to see him try though, considering nyn is a VERY strong AS and lan isnt completely defenseless himself. and if he attacks in t'a'r nyn probably has hers and lan's dream's warded and with egghead in t'a'r nyn and lan arnt going to be very easy tarets. heh heh heh

[Isabel]

He was after Rand and min.
[TheKro> question: who are the 2 people slayer kills in winter's heart?
[@r-JORDAN> the two people slayer kills are simply a couple who had the misfortune to rent a room that somebody thought was still occupied by rand and min,.

Oh and I believe he used the word cousin. not certain though. But other people explained to me that that word RJ used could only mean Rand not Lan.
(in dutch we have only one word for nephew/ cousin)

bye isabel

[Squilo]

what im saying is, not who WAS killed but who WILL BE attempted to be killed. we know Lan is isam's nephew, i think they tell us that in NS or some other book i cant remember which that there was a malkeri who was akir's bro (lans da) who was going to have the throne but akir got it because his bro was bad or someting or other. akir's bro had a son, named ISAM. who supposedly died. also nyn sees someone in t'a'r that looks like lan and tried to kill her. there we go. our connnection. lan's cousin would look LIKE him and he would be targetting the 'wench' as he says in WH. he just failed. so he is trying to killl his nephew and the wench being nynaeve and lan.

confusing aint it?

[Shandy]

When Slayer thinks about "his nephew and the wench" he is almost definitely referring to Rand and Min.

Lan is Isam's cousin - you spelled it out yourself - because Isam is the son of Lan's father's brother. So he isn't referring to Lan here.

But as for whether he will focus an attack on Lan and Nyn in the future, I guess it's possible. I don't know why RJ would have made Isam one half of 'Slayer' if he didn't intend to put in some consequences for Lan.

Aaaand... the last time he spied on Nynaeve in T'A'R, she would have been wearing the ki'sain and possibly even the Malkieri-style dress still (that was when she reminisced back to her third Accepted test and her clothes changed to what she had been wearing in Malkier). Would he have gotten close enough to see that, and Lan's ring of the Malkier Kings around her neck? Isam knows the Malkieri fashions because he wears the hadori. Recognising Nynaeve in them is enough to make him curious, atleast...

But for the moment, I don't think he would actually go hunting for Lan... one, he hasn't been ordered to, and he stopped looking for Rand and Min when he was ordered not to. Secondly, Isam may have been really desperate to kill Lan in a time where he could have won the Malkieri throne from him, but Malkier is dead now so neither of them will have it.

But it's possible Isam doesn't know Lan is alive. If they ever met up, I think one of them wouldn't leave the meeting alive. But as that hasn't happened thus far...

Also, I think "Slayer" is being more connected to Perrin. Didn't Egwene have a prophetic dream in which Perrin was fighting a man "whose face kept changing" or something along those lines? Which is a shame, because a Lan/Isam conflict would be far more interesting (atleast for avid Lan fans ; ). Lan doesn't really have any particular enemies to face.

Moiraine said waaaaay back in The Great Hunt: "I must keep this from [Lan], until I know how he will react. Until we are away from the Blight. If he thought Isam were alive..."

But seeing as we're on CoT now and it's never been followed up, it's hard to know if RJ intends to confront the Lan-Isam connection...

That's my take, Squilo. I think Lan-Isam is a really interesting topic Sooooo many possibilities...

[Squilo]

sry i didnt have respond earlier, was away for a week. anyways. i think the lan/nynaeve/slayer confrontation is going to happen in book 11. how i know? RJ's writing style. after every book with lots of nyn in it there is a book with no nyn, and then there is nyn overload. for instance. book 8, no POV of nyn. book 9, rand an her cleanse saidin. book 10, the two worthless paragraphs of caddy insulting her. so it would make sense that in book 11 there will be a lot of nynaeve and lan. which would make the slayer comment in book 9 make sense. slayer will try to kill them. cool stuff occcurs. nynaeve fans go wild!

[Liandra]

I think a Lan/Nyn/Slayer confrontation might happen, but the quote you are speaking of is definately about Rand and not about Lan.
As was said before, Lan and Isam are cousins. So Isam would never think of Lan as his nephew.
But Luc (the other part of Slayer) is Rands uncle. So, Rand is his nephew. Combined with the quote from the chat with RJ, I don't see how you can mix them up still.

Anyway, I really hope Lan and Isam will meet. It would be soooo cool!

[Squilo]

LUC IS RAND UNCLE???

[HammerOfGod]

Slayer has been sent off to kill Fain; by Moridin...

The confrontation will be between Slayer and Fain...

Of the main characters it is Perrin that has had the most of actual contact with Slayer....

For one thing Slayer loves to kill wolves...
A direct link with Perrin...

[Terje]

[TheKro> question: who are the 2 people slayer kills in winter's heart?
[@r-JORDAN> the two people slayer kills are simply a couple who had the misfortune to rent a room that somebody thought was still occupied by rand and min,.

This implies that it is the Luc personality that's most dominant in Slayer, don't it?

[Isabel]

Nope, it could be that at that moment it was dominant, but it doesn't mean it's always:)

[HammerOfGod]

Aug 12, 2003 5:32:36 GMT 1 Squilo said:

LUC IS RAND UNCLE???

Yes Luc is Tegrane's brother...and Tegrane is Rand's mother...

and yes it was Rand and Min that were supposed to be killed...to the Forsaken Lan is unimportant...all there efforts are to destroy Rand..THE DRAGON REBORN....