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Post by HammerOfGod on Jun 26, 2003 2:40:00 GMT 1
I have always had a feeling that Nynaeve would capture Semirhage
Especially after she used the A'dom on Moggy in {tFoH}
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I did not know how Nynaeve would get close enough to capture the greatest healer in AOL but Jordan has solved that... It seemed very obvious that Tuon's truthspeaker Anoth is Semmi..... we found that out in WH... But Nynaeve had already left Ebou Dar.... So I thought my theory was shot, until the end of CoT....
Now that Rand is going to meet Suroth and Nynaeve is going with him.... probably in Lugard, she will have a chance to put an A'dom on Semirhage..
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Post by Liandra on Jun 27, 2003 19:21:05 GMT 1
That would be sooo cool! The two greatest healers of the world... Oh, yes, I hope you're right!   At least, I hope she'll do something. I sooo need a PoV of Nynaeve!  |
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Post by HammerOfGod on Jun 27, 2003 21:17:57 GMT 1
The last Nynaeve POV was" Blue Carp Street" in WH...
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Post by Isabel on Jun 28, 2003 9:32:28 GMT 1
I have been thinking about nynaeve in book 11. And about what she can do.
There are several options:
1 Nynaeve goes together with Rand to Suroth+ Semirhage and frees him because she has a well
and knows the weak spot of a shield if they shield her, and if they put an a'dam on her. She might
break free because she can still channel and so free herself. Although we can discuss about that if that would
be possible, because physical you can't open your own a'dam and i think you can channel too little to free yourself.
Or she can channel Rand free, if the principle of open the a'dam is the same.
And if mat and tuon are there, she can kick mat and tuon:)
2 We know that Egwene can find Nynaeve's dream. Egwene can ask Nynaeve for help, since she couldn't ask Elayne, because
Elayne is busy. In that case Nynaeve will go to the tower and help free Egwene. But we don't know if Egwene can go to Tar.
3 Or Mat. Colors whirled in his head, almost resolving into...what? A man on a wagon seat? Not the
face that sometimes appeared in his thoughts, anyway, and the scene was gone in an instant,
without any of the dizziness that accompanied the face.
(Cot, Rand, A strenghtening Storm, page 547)
So Rand sees sometimes Mat or Perrin. He can decide that they are in trouble or that he needs them.
In that case who can he better send than Nynaeve? Mat and perrin still trust nynaeve, they will trust
an aes sedai or asha'man less. So Nynaeve can go there:))
I hope that Nynaeve goes to Mat:) Than deals with the darkhounds, sul'dam and kick valan luca.
And what she also can do: If she hears then that Egwene is captured she can go with Mat, Tuon and Egeanin.
Or one of them to the tower. In that case the question of the seanchan woman is solved:))))
4 She can also go to Perrin. In that case she can also help Perrin and recognize Lini, or at least a saying from Lini:)
She can also help with rescueing Faile, because she can weave discuises with inverted weaves.
An other thing nynaeve can do is first go to Mat, than hears Egwene is in trouble and send tuon or Egeanin to the tower.
(because she also heard the dream of egwene) After that she is going to find Perrin with Mat and the band of the red hand.
And then safe faile and after that safe Rand if he is captured by suroth:)
So what do you think of that:))))) (to much imagination??)
5 Oh there is also another thing that can happen. Rand sending Nynaeve to Elayne or Aviendha, because he feels something is wrong.
In that case she can rescue Elayne from Mellar.
6 The last thing Rand can do is that he will send her + logain to the black tower before he goes to suroth. So they can keep an eye
on Taim and he trusts Nynaeve, so if nynaeve sees something is wrong he will believe her:)
(don't think nynaeve will want to go to the black tower, but you never know)
Conclusion: Nynaeve is something of a wild card:) She can go everywhere and save everyone.
That was my theory, but in response on yours Hammer:
If rand and nynaeve are going to meet suroth. I think it is more likely that they get captured, instead of semirhage. To discover Semirhage they would have to shatter the mask of mirrors first.
It is possible that nynaeve will capture semirhage, but that will happen after nynaeve has been captured, i think.
And I think nynaeve wouldn't take the chance any more to hold semirhage with the a'dam. Ít is possible to get out of one.
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Post by Liandra on Jun 28, 2003 21:14:18 GMT 1
Eeeh... And why would Nynaeve want to kick Tuon?! I think she would LOVE a girl who is able to calm down Mat.
About your other theories: some are more likely to happen than others. Some I think, will never happen. Others might. I'm afraid we'll have to RAFO...
I just hope there will be a lot of Nynaeve & Lan in book 11. I don't care what they do, they just need to be in the book!
Aah... at least I know there will be Lan in New Spring...
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Post by HammerOfGod on Jun 28, 2003 23:32:23 GMT 1
I think she said to kick Valen Luca...
I feel that it would be Valen's wife, since she beat up on her in {tFoH}..
I think that Nynaeve will stay with Rand for the time being... She ran away from Elayne because of the seafolk... and I don't think she wants to face Egwene right now, unless she is with the Dragon Reborn...
I have this theory about the three Ta'Veran
Thom is Mat's father teacher figure
Elias is Perrin's father teacher figure
Lan is Rand's father teacher figure
That is one of the reasons I believe that Nynaeve and Lan will stay with Rand from now on...
Also I believe that the largest part of book #11 will be a Rand book, which will give a lot of stuff for Nynaeve to do...It seems logical that Nynaeve will stay with Rand until TG for one thing Alevia has to help Rand die and I don't think that Nynaeve will let her out of her sight...
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Post by HammerOfGod on Jun 29, 2003 3:43:09 GMT 1
She did say kick Tuon and Mat.....Isabel you have been reading Nynaeve's POV's to much. All this kicking and screaming and pulling braids....
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Post by Isabel on Jun 29, 2003 7:50:43 GMT 1
Well kicking Tuon because Tuon is way to secretive and way anti aes sedai and doesn't believe in Trollocs or at least that they are not that good.
And I find Tuon sometimes extremely annoying and sometimes funny, but still ;D Go Nynaeve.
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Post by Liandra on Jun 29, 2003 11:27:25 GMT 1
Tuon rulez! Well, not as much as of course, but she rulez anyway! Isa: I think you're confusing Nynaeve with some karateka... She does not kick people for stupid reasons. And I don't see why you would like to see her do it, anyway. You violent creature!   That theory about father figures sounds good. I believe Lan & Nynaeve will stay with Rand for at least a while longer. I see really no reason for Nynaeve to go somewhere else and Lan will stay with her in any case. In WH Rand said Nynaeve was the only person he trusted completely (or something like that). Therefore, I think, he won't send her away very soon either. If Alivia is needed to help Rand die, Nynaeve might be needed to help him live. (Remember - somewhere in book 5 or 6, if I'm correct - the line that said Nynaeve wouldn't stop, until she had Healed a person three days dead... I still think this could be a spoiler of a sort. Perhaps not, though. Again: RAFO.) |
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Post by Isabel on Jun 29, 2003 17:36:36 GMT 1
Me violent ;D And I don't confuse nynaeve with some karateka. She is the one , of the women who has been fighting pysically the most. Latelle, before that all the men in Emondsfield, Mat, Siuan. So:)))) Oh and I agree with you that Nynaeve is the only person Rand trusts, but that also means that if he has a job to do for someone, that he doesn't anyone else trust to do, than it will be nynaeve. What if he sees something about Mat being in trouble. And he can't come himself. Than he will send Nyn, also because she knows mat and he knows her. bye isabel |
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Post by shewaselectric on Jun 27, 2005 18:15:54 GMT 1
Nyn vs. Semirhage.  |
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Post by HammerOfGod on Sept 29, 2009 15:30:05 GMT 1
How do you like my foresight...I was saying even when I read the series the first time...in 2000 that it was likely that Nynaeve would end up with a chance to learn about healing from Semirage...
Jordan has always been good at foreshadowing...and in {The Lord Of Chaos} Nynaeve spent a lot of time trying to learn about healing from Mogedean...it was Jordan's way of telling us that if Nynaeve ever got a chance at a Forsaken that knew anything about healing...she would dig it out of her...
I love it when I am right about something...it took over 4 years to find that Nynaeve was going to be near Semirage...and now with another 4 years we will actually see it happening...
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