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Post by caroline on Mar 29, 2004 21:08:04 GMT 1
I just hope that the next book has a lot more Nyn and Lan in it. Maybe the last book will have N & L restoring Malkier, settling there (of course with a visit to the Two Rivers first), and starting a family.
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Post by Shikoba on Oct 7, 2004 17:22:29 GMT 1
I don't keep track of the names of the books, but 6 & 7 were really hard to get through...I gave up the series two or three times during those.
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Post by Terje on Oct 13, 2004 18:00:29 GMT 1
Actually, I'm such a WoT fundamentalist that I can't even make myself say that any of the books were bad.
Altough CoT tended to be a little frustrating; I never really felt that I got past the beginning...
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Post by Terje on Nov 24, 2004 16:46:15 GMT 1
I don't keep track of the names of the books, but 6 & 7 were really hard to get through...I gave up the series two or three times during those. What? Imo, LoC (#6) is the best one. Or one of the best, anyway...
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Post by Shikoba on Nov 24, 2004 23:06:48 GMT 1
That...igloo thing...was just incredibly cheesy and annoying. I don't know, that and the plots started getting watered down right around book five. And you know, all the shawl adjustments and whatnot. *shrug*
But I still love the Aielmen.
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Post by Liandra on Nov 25, 2004 13:37:09 GMT 1
The iglo thing happened in book 5 (I'm not sure whether you meant that or book 6, so don't yell at me if you did mean book 5). I know what you mean about that. I liked Rand and Aviendha getting together at last (though, in my opinion, he should just stick with one girl and that one should be Min, but that's not the matter at hand here), but why did it have to happen in Seanchan and - of all things possible - in an iglo? There was no point what-so-ever to that. The only thing good that came of it was that Traveling was rediscovered and that we heard something new about the Seanchan, but I'm sure RJ could have made both things happen in a way much more logical. Oh well, he didn't. Just too bad.
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Post by Terje on Nov 27, 2004 19:33:57 GMT 1
That...igloo thing...was just incredibly cheesy and annoying. I don't know, that and the plots started getting watered down right around book five. And you know, all the shawl adjustments and whatnot. *shrug* But I still love the Aielmen. Igloo... Do you mean that scene where Rand and Aviendha is getting intimate in the snow? That's, like Liadra wrote, in book 5... And the thing about the dresses and shawls and whatnot that I see almost everyone complain about: This is, imo, RJ's way of showing us subtleties. The shawl adjustmets are his way of showing that the adjusting character is somewhat distressed. The "thought comments" on people's dresses is his way of showing that persons change. Anyway, this is how I see it, and why it doesn't bother me much. I can agree that it's not a very advanced (or even good) way of doing it, but what WoT is all about, to me anyway, is the epic story. I'm not one of those guys who have to have characters I can psycho-analyze or whatever. I like em nice and flat and 2D (Not really, but you know what I mean, hopefully)
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Post by Shikoba on Nov 28, 2004 19:13:11 GMT 1
The shawl-adjustments was just the most well-known example. You get tired of the same subtleties after a while.
I like psychoanalizing characters [note the Dostoevsky thing I keep bringing up.] But RJ"s characters don't bug me that much. I just happen to like plots that go somewhere.
And I didn't say the igloo thing was in book 7. My exact quote:
That...igloo thing...was just incredibly cheesy and annoying. I don't know, that and the plots started getting watered down right around book five. And you know, all the shawl adjustments and whatnot. *shrug*
BOOK 5.
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Post by Terje on Dec 1, 2004 14:23:47 GMT 1
Ah. It's all so much clearer now
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Post by HammerOfGod on Dec 12, 2004 21:34:42 GMT 1
Actually I do think we have seen the last of the Axe at Perrin's side... Here is my reasoning...A General does not carry weapons...his soldiers are his weapons...It was time for Perrin to grow up and become the General he was meant to be... Even Mat Cauthin said it in {LoC} Lord of Chaos {Heading South} page 477 PB Mat slipped back and left them to it. ***The general who leads in front of a battle is a fool.*** That came from one of those old memories, a quote from somebody whose name not part of the memory. *** A man could get killed in there.***That was pure Mat Cauthin....
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Post by HammerOfGod on Dec 12, 2004 22:21:05 GMT 1
Crossroads of Twilight {What has to be done} page 601 HB
"What about that, boy?" Elyas asked.
Perrin knew what he meant without looking. The Axe. "Leave it for whoever finds it." His voice turned harsh. "Maybe some fool gleeman will make a story out of it." He strode away toward the camp never looking back.
He has chosen the Hammer over the Axe...
In the Shadow Rising we have this from Verin
The Shadow Rising {Goldeneyes} page 645 HB
" I am a little surprised to see you and Alanna still here," he told her. "Hunting girls who can learn to channel can't be worth getting killed. Or keeping a string tied to a ta'veren, either."
"Is that what we are doing?" Folding her hands at her waist, she tilted her head to one side thoughtfully. "No," she said at last, " I do not think we could go quite yet. You are a very interesting study, as much as Rand, in your own way. And young Mat. Could I only split myself into three, I would latch one onto each of you and follow you every moment of the day and night even if I had to marry you."
"I already have a wife." It felt odd saying that. Odd, and good. He had a wife. and she was safe.
She shattered his moment of reverie. "Yes, you do. But you do no know what marrying Zarine Bashere means, do you?" She reached up to turn his axe in its loop on his belt, studying it. "WHEN ARE YOU GOING GIVE THIS UP FOR THE HAMMER?"
If you people would spend more time studying the books you would know more {The Axe is History....Perrin is now the Hammer}
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Post by Isabel on Dec 14, 2004 10:55:33 GMT 1
Hammer: there are people who have been studying the books, but I don't believe that he won't fight anymore. I saw the hammer more as being a blacksmith. He wil continue leading armies, only i think in the last battle every men is neccessary. Perhaps he will use an other weapon, but still... i didn't find that scene confincing in that kind of way.
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Post by HammerOfGod on Sept 28, 2009 5:44:47 GMT 1
I also wasn't confinced by that scene. I reallly hadn't gotten the idea that perrin threw the axe really away for good. That he had chosen for the hammer. I thought that he could pick it up any moment. bye isabel The Battle against the Shaido in KoD proved that the axe is gone for good... This was foreshadowed in tSR when Verin asked Perrin when he was going to choose the hammer over the axe... Perrin will not be getting into the thick of battles again he is becoming a General and they do not fight in the battles...he fought in this one because he wanted to free Faile...
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Post by HammerOfGod on Sept 28, 2009 5:45:58 GMT 1
I don't keep track of the names of the books, but 6 & 7 were really hard to get through...I gave up the series two or three times during those. 6 and 7 were fantastic some of the best Fantasy I have ever read...
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Post by HammerOfGod on Sept 28, 2009 6:05:28 GMT 1
All is good and a new book {The Gathering Storm} will be out in 5 weeks...new Nynaeve...it seems that we will have quite a lot of Rand in this book...so should be lots of Nynaeve...
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